I Hate You, Please Suffer

Should I try getting my characters killed mainly for the spiritual healing? If so then is there an easy way to do that?

So does anyone know how to get into the tower? I was told I had to enter the tower to recruit the cowboy, but I have been unable to get access.

I can't seem to find the place to buy ma shi back, got da password now tho. All I managed to find was the cult, the company man, the lighthouse and the faunshalts storage

Hi once again. I was wondering if u could give me any hints to where to find the key and photo for Trish's illusionary realm. btw just got Jasper, love the representation. (sry if I'm bothersome, I seem to come here quite often askin for advice/hints)

hi, were do i go to buy my stuff back, ive been lookin around but cant manage to figure it out

I'm now playing the complete version and just went to HER grave to get cursed and as soon as the inner dialoge is over. Ramona auto moves left. I kinda can't leave the room cuz of it. N since the interaction w the grave auto saves i can't avoid it either. Wut I do?

Now that I actually did finish the game, comments time. There are some spoilers here, although nothing severe. Still, I'm glad I went into this game without much foreknowledge, so if that's your approach, you might want to not read this.

This game was honestly kind of a masterpiece. Excellent characters and story of course, and with a really good combat (which was nice). However, the thing that really first drew me into the game was how the game was deliberately frustrating in a fascinating way. The start of the game is quite difficult, and in no small part that's just because you don't know how it works yet (I died a lot of times before I realized that resting after I got through the beginning part was, in fact, worth raising the rent). Even beyond that, there's also the little things. Every single way to save "costs" in some sense (even just sleeping, since it raises the rent), traveling around the city costs at least 1$ (and quite a bit more if you don't want to lose things randomly, so until you have more money, you probably can't afford to be using it constantly), and no matter what you do, there's always a chance that you'll just lose a piece of equipment. In my game, I lost the Strength Scarf that was literally my strongest piece of equipment to an overnight theft, and I was never able to find another one. However, as I got into it, I just learned to roll with it. Lost the scarf, so I used something else. Carried some extra gear just in case, got used to spending a bit, etc. It complements the story the game tells so well, so it was really a fantastic experience.

Beyond that, the story was phenomenal (although I won't get into it too much since Spoilers), and the ending I got was very satisfying (for which one it is: I had to go through the full Tower to get it). I really liked all four party members, but I also liked all of the background characters (the ones who were intended to be likeable anyways, I can't say I liked Ramona's landlord, but that just made something in the ending all the more satisfying). I made sure to use the Small Talk option several times (and to do so after getting more characters) just because there was interesting dialogue for the characters.

The combat is also really fun. I ended up with three of the characters' Tarot card gear, which was extremely helpful (regen is really good in this game), but just the set of skills available to each character were interesting and fun to use. I didn't get all of the Spiritual Healing skills (except for Kyrie's), but the ones I did get were all useful and interesting (Dodge Roll is great).

Tragically, I played the majority of the game with the sound off because of the times of day I had available to play it, but late game I ended up listening to some of the music, and it's fantastic (seriously, I was missing out). I need to replay it at some point just to listen to the music some more (plus to see some of the content I missed, like a certain arcade machine).

Also, as much as the art for the game is described as not great (literally in the description of this game), it works with the tone of the game, and I actually liked it just fine. Also, Kyrie's walk cycle is great. No other comment on that necessary.

I did not end up beating a certain bonus boss against the (non-canonical) "ruler" of Engel, although now that I've done everything else, I'll probably take another try. The problem for me wasn't even the boss's damage (which was honestly not that high, although I also had a lot of defense on all my characters other than Kyrie, who just dodged things that vast majority of the time), but the fact that I literally could not outdamage the boss's regen + the one draining skill. I'll have to give it another try now that I'm about as powerful as I can get without just grinding Model Employees for stat-up items (which I sort of did, but that was just because I was enjoying the fights while doing the things I needed to do to get into the final floor of the Tower). I did beat most of the bounties that I didn't accidentally lock myself out of (although I think I forgot one of the four Heavenly Rat Kings, so I should really do that too). Combat in the late game got pretty easy, but I did make a lot of use of stat-up items and had very good gear.

Edit: Fight done. Huh, that was a lot easier this time. I guess all those stat-ups really did help, given that I was able to just do overwhelming damage and end the fight quickly. I don't seem to be able to leave though, as the looping hallways occur in both directions?

I did run into one bug worth reporting, but thankfully it did not break my game or anything:

For the Rank 3 quests, I did Lighthouse Reclamation, then Lonely Hearts, and after finishing Lonely Hearts, it sort of never stopped. I turned it in, but now all of the characters have kept their dialogue associated with it. This is mostly notable with Sheya, who always refers to me doing it. Some of the other characters sort of refer to it, but most of them are more in reference to it being finished, so that was fine. The core bug part was that when I picked up the Casino Investigation quest later and left the building, I ended up with both quests at once in my reminders, and, if I talked to Uzbek again, I could go and turn in Lonely Hearts again, getting the short scene and reward. I did not attempt to do Casino Investigation (partially in fear of breaking my save and partially just because it seemed unlikely that turning it in would work at all). It didn't stop me from completing The Tower stuff, so I can still normally end the game that way, thankfully though (that would have hurt a bit).

Edit: I did go on to finish that quest, I was able to turn it in (... alongside Lonely Hearts, both of them turned in at the same time) and have everything get a bit more back on track. Some of the dialogue in Casino Investigation was off since I did things in what seems to have been an unintended order and characters didn't know about things they probably should have, but everything worked fine so I'm just glad I could see everything in that.

Edit: Oh, right, additional minor bug: Kyrie's Cool Down does not end the "Killing Harmony" Assassin stance, so you just get a full heal and the CDs trigger, but your stance does not change.

Anywho, that's the longest response I've written to a game in a while, but I had a lot to say about this one. I'm still not really sure whether it's Itch standard to leave reviews in the comments or reviews, so I'm just going to copy the review-y portion of this over to that too.

i've really been enjoying this game!! especially the ost, my mind is just full of "i dooon't beeeeelieeeve youuu", but, where do cowboy hat guy go??? i feel that if i don't go right now he's gonna fucking die

sry my dumb ass is here again. I'm struggleing with the monster egg quest and i called the tip hotline where the oracle says "closer to home than one thinks" and the descriptionv says that the culprit lives 2406 somewhere. So I went to ramonas apartment building and checked on her floor room 406 but got no result so i tried the input on the elevator put that thing is basically out of order. So... I'm wondering wut todo now?

So I've been playing on steam for the past days and I gotta say I really love this game, the core mechanics could be better explained and makes for a rough start but after that is really fun and creative, overall I love the characters and the dialogue, it's written pretty naturally and its almost always either pretty interesting or pretty funny, I'm kinda stuck with the graveyard quest but I'm gonna keep going until I finish it, last thing I really love Ramona she's literally me.

I feel like an idiot but I'm a bit stuck. So I kind of forgot what Kyrie told me to do to help her. I'm at the point where I'm now able to take on quests from rank 2 for reference. I don't want to take on a quest in case that means  I miss the opportunity to add Kyrie to my team, but I can't find her and I can't remember what I was supposed to help her with. Also can't use the hotline because it's not technically a quest :/

im planning to buy ¨Slimes¨ and was wondering if it's a distant place in the same universe as ¨I Hate You, Please Suffer¨ due to in one of the images the guy mentions how he wants his scales gone from his face, so i was wondering if its scales due to the same herald and him awakening his power in a traumatic situation

-Chara

I've been playing the Steam version, and it's interesting and engaging, but I've also managed to get myself apparently permanently stuck. If you try to quit while playing the roulette in the casino (and not just when the game is actually running,) when you start the game up again, the wisps won't be flashing, but the host won't let you leave, and the button won't do anything if you press it. As far as I can tell, there's no way to progress from here, so the only way I can get out would be to start a new game and abandon my save file, which I'm pretty reluctant to do by this point.

i'm loving the game so far and as a trans girl i'm loving the trans representation of ramona. I'm really enjoying my time so far and wondering when approximatly the ¨Complete¨ is gonna be released and if the data from the free version is gonna be transfered to the full game. Is there gonna be more than one file in the ¨Complete¨ so dat u for example could play two separate runs one with quinnith dead and one with the siren getting exorcised .Also if theres a insta id love to support dat 

-Chara  o_o-b

hi I’m loving the game so far. I’m stuck on the necromancy quest and I’m wondering where to go I’ve just been walking around in the grave yard  for 2 hours now after reading the note from jasper

-Chara

it's hard to tell if various events are broken or what. it's very unclear about what's possible and what i'm supposed to be doing, and it seems unreasonably difficult and grindy without getting a 2nd party member

the "depressed ex-adventurer" NPC at the docks changes sprites depending on the direction from which you talk to them. itch isn't letting me upload screenshots in the comments though

minor spoilers

Still playing through this. Even if level scaling is making the Sewer Wrath Slime a tougher fight than intended, I found it managable by alternating between Lunge and Bribe to stall for another Lunge. I was able to get Devon but didn't realize that the Wrath Slime vendetta meant an inescapable unbribeable boss fight would be appearing on basically every map. I think that means I should stop rationing saves - they're not even $10 yet.

Couple of little bugs I ran into:

The conversation markers on the map started appearing when Devon joined, which made me remember the marker I triggered before recruiting any party members, I think in the room north of the woods bus stop with the attacking flowers? I wasn't sure if that was a bug or a very contextless flashback/flash forward at the time.

You can see a lot of health bars for the empty slots in the Stanley fight if you use Spray. Also you get a Broken Flute even if you win without trying to grab it before the fight? I'd understand if it was intentional, and maybe I missed a line at the end of the fight, but nobody seemed to say anything about it being broken until I turned it in at the Bar.

It would be convenient if the shop interface showed a comparison against what you already have equipped, instead of against baseline stats and a net stat delta. If that's an RPG Maker limitation it's not a big deal.

Still plenty of stuff left to dive into here. I'm really only inching my way through and things like Wrath Slime and Stanley revenge attacks tend to make me regret my frugal approach to saving.

Oh, this was all on 1.1 I think? So if anything changed in 1.2 I haven't checked it out yet. Nothing shows up in the itch client install options on Windows 10 so I downloaded it and forgot to keep it updated

Why can I use a lockpick on room 2406 even though I supposedly need to learn how to use them first? Why do I keep getting party dialogue with people I've never met (after the apartment quest and in front of whatever's north of the forest)??? I took the 2406 quest first and ran in circles and slept a couple days trying to progress the person in front of the bar, and I was really worried I'd somehow gotten stuck until I realized I could...just buy a lockpick and use it. And then I got dialogue with Devon after that and got worried it was still bugged. For the record, I only really went to places as they were introduced as "here's a place to go next" so I didn't go to the Tower or anything because I had no particular reason to. Also I accidentally slept right at the beginning of the game and got concerned that broke something.

minor spoilers

I don't know whether or not I've "screwed myself out" of getting the second party member - I can see him outside the Tower but I don't know how to give him a means of communication. In lieu of that, I'm struggling with just a level 4 Ramona to take on the Raccoon Flute guy with or without the flute. I don't know if I have to complete a specific mission (or any mission) to recruit him but I do feel that grinding my way to a comfortable level at which to face him is a bit of a steep trek. Without any other party members or reliable abilities (except for Bribe, I suppose?) I'm reluctant to explore any place with enemies tough enough to speed up the grinding. I did enjoy discovering the small sewer dungeon outside the apartment and finding that the green slimes were easy enough pickings to mow down. I barely minded the treasure-jacking punchline, the real prize was easy loot. The purple slimes that replaced them were less generous. I also abused going to bed for the night for the free heal until I realized that that was adding to the rent. I'm halfway tempted to fish my way to housing security, an impulse mostly tempered by the suspicion that there's a system in place that depletes the fishing if you do enough of it in one day. Or maybe the big fish were just hiding for that third trip.

In attempting to find other places advance the "recruit someone else so I stop dying alone in the woods" sideplot I encountered a few small issues.

In the clinic, the second door on the right locks the game after the narration.

There's a seam in the tree tiles on the left edge of the docks.

You can run freely in the downtown sewer-dungeon, despite the rule about only running in "safe" places, although the effect on the encounter rate is... dramatic.

I think that other people have mentioned them but the random calls cycle pretty often. They're a nice touch and add to the stressed-out gig worker vibe, but maybe when the pace of the game is more defined it might make sense to make some of them one-time only scattered throughout the plot (and replace the rest with terrible spam callers. is Ramona aware her car insurance is expiring? it's not a bug if its annoying on purpose)

Lastly, I like the "DO YOUR BEST/DO YOUR WORST" splash on entering battle, but it's often half-legible due to the overworld background not contrasting against the black. The first few times I saw it I didn't get a chance to read it. If it plays for every battle in the entire game it's not that big of a problem, but it diminishes the impact of the first couple of appearances if it's half cut off.

I enjoyed Slimes a lot and I'm enjoying revisiting the setting premises that were mostly only alluded to or flashbacked about there. This seems like a much more sprawling project with a very different vibe - an intentional throwback to much meaner early console RPGs with some additional negative feedback loops strewn about as a reminder that capitalism. The screenshots (more than my own stymied progress) seem to indicate you've made some decent headway on that sprawl - best of luck with the rest!

Oh I just posted but I was wondering if there's any chance to be able to acquire/listen to the ost separately? I enjoy the battle and forest themes a lot.

I'm enjoying this game so far but I'm a bit stuck. I'm still trying to get an adventure's license but nothing at the shrine in the forest helps me to that end. I call the tip hotline and it tells me to do a quest that requires I kill hornets. I've done the quest where you sell hornet parts to the npc at the town dungeon and I don't know if there are any more hornet related quests. Other things I've done are team up with devon and completed the sewer section. Any help/tips would be appreciated.

I didnt even play the game and I hate you already

I like this game. Just five minutes in and I'm into it. Love the choice of music, I was jamming to it. My most favourite thing was when the landlord ambushed Ramona and the way he was introduced like a boss. I like the bus mechanic and transport mechanic, you can't just immediately walk to the next city after all. Liked the interactions too. A must play game. (Landlord I'll pay my rent, don't call my parents!) I like how this game really does want you to suffer. (Paying 1 dollar to save, making Ramona do the extermination instead, tip hotline is 35 dollars, etc.) Too many encounters in the forest though. And sewer event triggers more than once. Had trouble with the sage boss at a lower level.
I made a playthrough, sorry about the audio, will correct it next time.